Corrupt?

One of the definitions for corrupt is; containing errors or alterations. That basically sums up the Catholic Church don’t you think? For example today at mass, during the homily, the priest tells the congurgation that their should be married priests and women priests. This certain priest does not think he is wrong and says that this should be b/c there are not enough preists. If you want another example go to almost any church these days and what does the congurgation do during the Our Father? They hold hands. It says in the catacisum that they should pray upwards to ‘God’ and it should not be a community prayer that goes horizontally. If you want to touch/hold people that is what peace is for.

9 thoughts on “Corrupt?

  1. Stephen

    While I’m all for pointing out errors in modern Christianity, I think you’re missing the point. As far as I know, a priest’s job is to preach his interpretation of the Bible and relate it to current issues. That’s the big difference between Catholicism and other Christian sects such as Protestants (they believe the Truth can vary by an individuals understanding of scripture. Back in the early 1900’s when they forced “vague” Bible reading in public schools, Catholic immigrants got mad). Anyways… though very unusual, it’s not “wrong” for a priest to think out of the box. If it weren’t for out-of-the-box-i-ness(?) you would have been irritated in Latin.

    In my opinion, if the Catholic Church wants to remain an influential source in public life throughout this next century, they’ll need to drop some of their more traditional characteristics and give into this picking-and-choosing liberal-Christianity craze. But that in itself creates a whole ‘nother set of problems…

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  2. zacgorak

    There are also set guidelines and/or rules that a preist should follow. That is why it takes so long to become a priest. If a preist does not teach the teachings of the Catholic Church then is he really a ‘Catholic’ priest?
    Yes a priest job is to interpret the bible, but, they have to do it the right way. There are many ways to interpret it and there are ‘wrong’ and ‘right’ answers.
    I completly disagree that the church should stop being traditional. Think of it this way. Why do we celebrate Thanksgiving? That is a tradition, which started back with the indians. Why not stop this ‘tradition’? I like tradtion but it should have some modern day things.

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  3. Stephen

    This is going to get really off topic. Sorry. I’m doing anything I can to put off those damn math problems.

    There are many ways to interpret it

    But where do you draw the line? What seperates a person from “interpreting” Genesis as a metaphorical parable versus someone questioning Jesus being born of a virgin? Or other illogical claims such as Noah being 900 years old or pi being exactly 3.00. If “nothing may be taken away, nor added” from this allegedly infallible text, you can’t pick and choose what to believe. It creates the whole, “I do what’s convenient” problem with moderate Christianity: there’s more to the Bible than John 3:16.

    I know I took your original text out of context, but you need to join the debate team. Seriously. How many other people do this stuff? Huh, huh? Yeah.

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  4. zacgorak

    Convince me to join the debate team. Mr. Debater.

    Well, I believe I already told you that is was possible to be 600 years old back in the day. Think about it for a while. No polution, AIDS and many other desises.

    Their are different religions for different ‘interpertations’. Catholic’s believe in one interpretation and protestants believe another.

    The bible is FAITH. If you do not have faith then why read the bible? That is unless you want to learn ‘history’ or understand a religion. You have to have faith that the holy spirit help mere humans write the bible, or the bible is just a collection of stories. That is what I am having trouble with currently. The bible can and is a very tricky thing and needs to be looked at and looked at again to understand/’interpret’ the correct way.

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  5. Stephen

    Well, I believe I already told you that is was possible to be 600 years old back in the day. Think about it for a while. No polution, AIDS and many other desises.

    No offense, but I’d LOVE to see some kind of study back that up. Prefebly not from St. God-Loves-You’s Universtity of Truthiness with doodles of dinosaurs walking alongside men, but anything is fine. While there may not have been MODERN diseases, there still were diseases. We have written record of plagues, potatoe famines, etc. dating back thousands of years (and if you’re looking at an alleged 6,000 year old planet, that’s pretty good). I know it sounds crazy, but maybe modern science has gotten in the way of mother nature’s, evolution’s or ever God’s (if you must) population control?

    The bible is FAITH. If you do not have faith then why read the bible?

    The same reason I’ve (tried to) read the Quran. Even though I may disagree with it, I realize the influence it has on society and how literal interpretation attempts to bring certain aspects of our culture back into the 16th century. In short, I think it’s ignorant to be uninformed on these magic little books that are so often used justify violence.

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  6. zacgorak

    I will try to find more out the 600 year old question later, but, I rememeber a news story about a guy who said that it was possible to be 600+ years old. He said that their was a virus or something that is not active about the mid-50s and basically eats away at the bone or something. If you can stop that then wha-la. He said one way to make that ‘virus’ not be activated is exercise eat well and some other stuff.

    Many people have many different opinions and think differently. No matter what we will have some problem if we ‘unite’ people together. Some people unite others with religion and others government. Now I do think that government and religion do not mix that well, but that is another descusion that I do not want to get into. Some points of the bible are really good and should be taught. For example the 10 Camandments. If everyone followed those we would never have a problem.

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  7. zacgorak

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20060824190031AABPFTt&pa=FYd1D2bwHTHwIbxiE.s5Qth0LWsmMsJ5cQyuO0Ihl7o9yjCvOFM..h49xI9U47aonmEU4xvGlQF0JQ–&msgr_status=
    The yahoo answers question!

    “I think it is possible but just not possible in today’s world with all that pollution, unhealthy eating habits, smoking etc…”

    “according to the bible it was. Methuselah lived for 967 years or so.
    Noah’s dad was born before Adam died….. yes, that’s right.
    ok, that being said, here’s the thing. I think it is possible. Science laws tell us that everything descends into chaos, therefore we can hypothisize that the gene pool is actually DEgenerating from it’s original perfectness, which would follow that men of over 8000 years ago or so, actually may have lived alot longer.”

    Some of them are funny!

    “it was possible to live to 1000 years old but God figured that was to long for a person to live so the oldest you can live until now is 120”

    “Not any more.. since people sin so much. Perhaps God punish people by reducing the years of living..”

    “Moses was apparently 800 years old before he died however I don’t know if they measured time the same as they do now. God gave me a certain number of time to accomplish a certain of things, at this rate I will never die!”

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  8. Stephen

    therefore we can hypothisize that the gene pool is actually DEgenerating from it’s original perfectness, which would follow that men of over 8000 years ago or so, actually may have lived alot longer.

    So what exactly is this “original perfectness”? With that logic, who’s to say early humans couldn’t fly?

    Yeah it was until Eve pissed god off

    Ah, original sin. While obviously an incorrect answer to your question, “sabrina” makes a point. Blaming a child for their ancestors crimes would probably be considered “un-Christian”, so why does the all-loving God do it? But yes, a lot of those answers were funny. Sometimes I wish Yahoo! Answers were a forum.

    I’ll respond to the Dr. Carl Baugh stuff in a future blog post. I’m starting to think I’m more opinionated here than my at my own website.

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  9. zacgorak

    “I’m starting to think I’m more opinionated here than my at my own website.”
    You do not post anygood stuff on your blog anymore!

    I believe in a higher being but, I do not think that the Catholic Church has it down. There are to many flaws or errors.

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